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to hillary clinton or joe biden when it comes to running for president, but there's plenty of time. we're only three years and 11 months away from election day. let's turn to michael tomasky, correspondent for "the daily beast". it's a lot of fun to talk about it, but it's amazing -- not that she doesn't deserve it. it's a quick endorsement on all fronts globally. how do you compete with that? >> it's awfully tough to compete with that. the speculation, ed, it didn't start this weekend at this event. speculation started before this election even took place. there were already articles in september and october about what hillary clinton would do. we don't know what she's going to do. it will be interesting to find out. but presumably some time around the 2014 midterms, right after those midterms is probably whether perspective candidates will take stock of things, do some polls, size up questions, talk to the people close to them and i think she'll be among those people. she's probably very interested in being president. i don't think she's itching, desperate to be president, but she's
. >> the effort continued today. joe biden had lunch with middle class americans who will see their taxes go up if republicans refuse to extend 19% of the tax cuts before the end of the year. >> folks, this is not hard. this ain't rocket science. it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision is made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent the middle class tax cut. the president would probably have me spin up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. it is not complicated. >> vice president joe biden did not waiver on the white house's position. it's all about the top tax rates. >> every serious economist i have spoken to, left, right, and center, knows you have to do something about revenue and rates. you can't get there from here without affecting people at this table. or fooling around with the mortgage deductions. you can't get there without the rates being affected. >> the white house is not backing down on rates. the president sent his legislative affairs director to meet with the republicans on the hill. he told him the white house
she'll be encouraged to run. seems to me that other people like vice president biden and governor of new york, they have to get going and make their move. the secretary of state gets to relax, get her head clear, read a novel or two, think about something other than work. how long does she have? >> lining up important fundraisers and clearing the field if that can be done, maximum, a year, and that would give her enough time to rest, regroup, decide, does she want to go through it because if you're going to do it the second time, you gotta win. she went through the hardest thing and has a place in history now. you can't come in second a second time. it would be tough. when you talk about new york, she's from new york. if you talk about biden, president clinton eclipsed the vice president on the trail this time so they have built-in buffers around those figures. chris: 12-year commitment, runs for four years, serves for eight, big decision. >> she'll be in her late 60's. i saw her make the speech -- to a gathering of americans and israelis and it was the best speech i've ever seen
spending right now. the other side of this though, of course, is vice president biden went to a diner today to talk to some middle class folks and he basically said he has been talking to business leaders to say the converse of this is if there is a fiscal deal business leaders tell him the economy will be unleashed. take a listen. >> the upside is even bigger than the downside. they are ready to move they have well over a trillion dollars out there continue to vest if they think that the economy is going to move. >> and i have been talking to officials in both pears who say that has been the most surprising thing to leaders in washington here in private is that the markets have remained relatively stable despite this uncertainty here in washington. it will take though just one or two days next week or so for the markets to get a bit jittery and then all of a sudden that might light a fire under lawmakers here to finally get a deal, shep. >> shepard: it okay vice president biden today signaled he thinks the deal is coming and snapped his fingers along the way. this is a two man deal now pre
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to negotiate to stop us from going over the fiscal cliff. vice president biden picks up the road show today. he is having lunch with some people but where and exactly with whom has yet to be made public. it has gotten more than a hundred thousand stories from people talking about how the tax incries would affect their families. there is a second round of advertisements today pushing lawmakers to not just make a deal, but to make a deal that protects social benefit programs. >> if the politicians in washington negotiate a bad deal on the bucket and deficit, what do you think will happen to medicare and medicaid benefits. >> it stars two senator and two republican reps. cnn reports the labor unions are spending more than a half of million dollars on this round of spots. we're back with more steph after the break. stay with us. ♪ going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are w
biden put the pressure on boehner in the way that only joe biden can. >> folks, this is not hard. this ain't rocket science. it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision was made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent middle class tax cuts. the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. it is not complicated. >> the president and the democrats have the poll numbers on their side. 53% of people approve of the job president obama is doing. 53% trust him to handle the negotiations while just 36% say they trust the republicans in congress. and 65% of voters are with the president on a sticking issue in these negotiations -- raising taxes on household income over 250,000. 31% oppose it. and today a new number is strengthening the president's position in the negotiations. the november jobs report shows the unemployment rate has dropped to 7.7%. the economy added 146,000 jobs last month, and that is one reason why today john boehner kind of, sort of maybe entertained the idea of giving p
president joe biden at lunch with middle class americans who will take a $200,000 hit if their tax cuts expire. >> this is no time to add any additional burden on middle class people. >> while the white house is pushing congress to renew middle class tax cuts, the president says he won't take any deal that won't extend tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. >> it will take 15 minutes from the time the decision is made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent middle class tax cut. >> reporter: both parties are leaving the talks to president obama and house speaker john boehner. here on capital hill, boehner says he is still waiting for the white house to respond to the latest gop proposal. >> this isn't a progress report because there's no progress to report. >> republicans are offering to extend tax breaks for all americans, close tax loopholes and cut nearly $1.5 trillion in spending. >> i came out the day after the election to put revenues on the table to take a step toward the president to try to resolve this. when is he going to take a step toward us. >> jay david cox
state lines. that made it a federal offense. by the way joe biden wrote the law. >> cenk: i hope you're right. biden and obama don't have a great record on this. let's bring in a different point of view. you and i agree we're optimistic about the laws that we hope it goes in the right direction and spreads across the country. i'll bring in sandra, a member of colorado concern. i don't believe she shares our point of view. what is your take on legalizing marijuana in colorado. >> good evening cenk, happy to be here. i represent the business community, and we're very concerned about the passage of amendment 164 and it's implication for business and for colorado. >> cenk: why? >> that's our concern. >> cenk: i don't get that? i guess if you represent the alcohol companies you might be worried about competition but why the business. >> we're concerned about productivity our liabilities our obligations and relationship to our employees. it changes the relationship. we have established a constitutional right to use marijuana, and that changes the game. we have concerns about that. >> what
at the cayman island. >> it's a nice gesture for the president considering that he hasn't let joe biden have lunch with him even once. that he hasn't let joe biden have lunch with him even once. >>> as you heard, we have lots more to talk about with our roundtable right after this from our abc stations. >> but, the problem with controlling costs you can only do that to some degree. every single year we go back and do the "doc" fix and we'll do it between now and january 1st. that is all always a phoney that congress is going to cut payments to doctors and doctors pull out of the medicare program. >> and the money is restored. >> it's hard to do this without structural reforms. >> let me, if you don't mind, we have seen people's retirement package reduced. we have seen people's individual savings, go down. you can't keep on seeing 401(k)s go down and then say, we're going to cut the other stuff that people count on. >> the numbers have to work. >> i want to turn to the tax debate as well. you guys are sitting back. let's get to the tax debate. you have seen speaker boehner, and other republic
worth noting that bill clinton should maybe take a page from the joe biden playbook because he after all is the person we have to thank -- >> the joe biden playbook. >> and taking a page from it. >> thank you to ari, joy and frank for joining me today. that is all for us here at "now." see you back tomorrow at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific when joined by josh green, new york magazine's benjamin wallace wells, former communications chair karen finney, "washington post's" melinda headen burger and carrie kennedy. for a twitter tutorial, follow @nowwithalex on your twitter machine. "amount reports" is coming up next. anncr: some politicians seem to think medicare and... social security are just numbers in a budget. well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for generations to come. we can do better than a last minute deal... t
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president biden is having lunch with several middle class americans who would see their income taxes go up if the tax cuts are not extended. all of this comes as the first jobs report since the election exceeded expectations. the u.s. economy added some 146,000 jobs last month. that was enough it to drive the unemployment rate down to 7.7%. joining me to talk about all of it, florida congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz and she chairs the democratic national committee. good friday afternoon to you. >> thank you. >> john boehner said today that democrats' plan is to, quote, slow walk our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff. how do you respond it to that? >> well, that's just utterly preposterous. the republicans right now in the house of representatives have a bill that would extend the middle class tax cuts right away that has passed the senate that they could take up next week when we come back. they could have already taken it up. we have a lot of time, and the republicans refuse to give certainty to the middle class. the president said he'd seen this bill right away, and then the
president biden said today's jobs report shows the economy is turning a corner, so it's critical to get a deal. >> there is a sense... there is a sense that if we can reach an- - act like adults and reach an agreement here on the fiscal cliff, the upside is much higher even than the downside is if we don't. >> sreenivasan: biden said the president is willing to consider what he called any serious offer. aides for the two sides were expected to continue talking, through the weekend. wall street was mostly higher on the news from november's jobs report. the dow jones industrial average gained 81 points to close at 13,155. the nasdaq was hurt by another sell-off in apple stock, and fell 11 points to close at 2,978. for the week, the dow gained 1%. the nasdaq lost 1%. this was another tense day across egypt, as a political crisis deepened. tonight, thousands of protesters pushed past army and police outside the presidential palace, demanding that president mohammed morsi leave office. he's assumed absolute powers and refuses to call off a vote on a constitution drafted by islamists. earlier
%. the president has been insisting all along those rates rise again but there's wiggle room here. president biden asked if it could be 37%, hedged on the question. even john boehner initial why when asked this question hedged a little bit. speaking of republicans, a rising star, senator marco rubio had this response in the weekly gop response to the president. >> we must get the national debt under control. tax increases will not solve our $16 trillion debt. only economic growth and a reform of sbilgsment programs will help control the debt. we must reform our complicated uncertain job killing tax code by getting rid of unjustified loopholes. but our goal should be generating revenue by creating new taxpayers not new taxes. >>> so alex, the question, your initial question, can it get done? the answer is yes. joe biden joked yesterday he could run it up to the hill from the white house in 15 minutes and run it back and have the president sign it. maybe not that quick. but most people believe if the will is there and votes are there it could get done in relatively short order. >> that's the big que
. shawn began this by talking about biden's interrupting and occasional laughing. did you guys see that? was it obvious to you? >> i will tell you what is obvious, his agenda. wonder why he's praising the ad. >> there's an ad that we tested a week ago. it's one of the best ads of the week ago. >> it's no surprise fox guest pushing agenda but now we have a contributor getting paid from a candidate and the conflicts of interests are all over the place. this is a political outfit that affects what happens inside the party. joining me now is aaron bola are rte. senior fellow and joe madison, nationally syndicated radio host for the power. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> eric, secretly receiving money, be you reported that story. what is your reaction? >> media matters broke this story and it's painful to look at the facts. i mean, here's what is supposed to be a news analyst and he's getting paid to say how great even paul ryan is doing. and -- >> and being paid by the cam bank. >> and being paid $20,000 a month. you showed the focus groups that he was running. peopl
. joe biden hinted about running a handful of other democrats governor of new york and maryland are also openly looking at it. no, it's not too early. >> bret: we have time to talk about it. >> lots of time. >> bret: carl, thanks. sad news, the loss of a woman who made a difference half a world away. elizabeth murdoch, mother of our big boss died peacefully today in australia. at the age of 103. mrs. murdoch was the mother of four children, including rupert murdock. patron of the arts she contributed to estimated 100 charities annually. many of them concerned with the health of children. in 1963, elizabeth murdock was made a dane commander of the order of the british empire. one of britain's highest civilian honors for her services for social welfare. australia bestowed a similar order companion of australia in 1989. prior to her 100th birthday, the australian prime minister called her woman with turbo charge for her community service in her advanced years. on behalf of her extended family, rupert murdock said his mother would be mourned by countless thousands of australians whose lives
including vice president biden, who's done a terrific job in his capacity as the second in command, but also, we have governors. a lot of diversity. duval patrick and we can all look as governor cuomo, you have elizabeth warren that might be considered presidential. so i don't want to throw all our eggs in one basket because there are so many wonderful people. martin o'malley, for example, the governor of colorado. like the republicans, this will be a large field of candidates, but there's fo question if secretary of state hillary clinton decided to throw her gloves into the race, game on. >> she got a lot of competition. >> david frum, you think the republican party's going to have the strongest field it's had in maybe a generation? >> i thought 2008 was the strongest the republican party has had in a long time and where did it get us? i think what we're going to see now is a lot of recruitment from the governors. it was very similar to see paul ryan and marco rubio on that stage. very popular with the washington conservative elite. they struck some important themes. they didn't have real c
discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white house has talked about thus far, they couldn't pass either house of the congress. we are ready and eager to talk to the president and to work with him to make sure that the american people aren't disadvantaged by what's happening here in washington. >> good morning. you know, i think at this point, pretty much most folks in the country and certainly in this on taxes. i think we understand that. but to the speaker's point, we have not had any discussion and any specifics with this president about the real problem, which is spending. we have got to do something about the spending. and obsessions to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. what will solve the problem is, doing something about the entitlements, taking on the wasteful
now on the jobs report. joining me is former economic adviser to vice president joe biden, jared bernstein, and ron insana. you heard the speaker and his comments moments ago. this is good for the president, the jobs report, no doubt. he can argue that, my policies have been working, better tax hikes for the upper 2%, more amenable because the economy is coming along. how do democrats leverage this in the key cliff negotiations going on? >> i think the key point is that there is some momentum in the jobs report. the labor market diminished a little bit in december. that's why the unemployment rate fell down, not because of extra jobs. but all told, especially expecting sandy's damage, it was a pretty good report and it shows that there's some und underlying momentum. the argument from the president or from anyone who cares are this economic recovery, it would be a crazy time to throw a monkey wrench at an ongoing recovery that has a little bit of momentum. >> ron, to you on this. talking about sandy, there seems to be a lack of sandy effect as some had thought initially. we see a
president biden speaking at an event regarding the fiscal cliff and laying out the proposal that the president has already issued on this matter. this is a play back from the white house pool in allege -- arlington, virginia, and continuing the breaking news great before commercial bring, the united states supreme court has made the decision to take up not one but two gay marriage cases involving california's proposition 8 which? >>guest: ensure bans gay marriage saying marriage between a man and a woman, and supreme court will hear that because there was another court that oversaw it can now it is passed up and the defense of marriage act, some technical details and differences in law but the court decided to take up both of the cases, gay marriage and whether it should be constitution am, whether people who are gay should have the same rights and freedoms under the constitution a people who are sexually oriented, heterosexuals or should they be discriminated against, that is what the supreme court will decide, hearing it as early as manner with a decision, possibly, by the
not everyone is pessimistic. >> reporter: literally snapping his fingers, vice president joe biden today suggested it will be easy to finish a deal with congress to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision is made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent middle class tax cut. the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. it is not complicated. >> greg: speaker bane -- >> reporter: speaker john boehner not so optimistic. >> this is not a progress report, there is no progression to report. report. >> reporter: he blasted for not offering a counterproposal to his plan and they seemed more than ever going to stop the tax increase. economy shrugged off hurricane sandy to create 146,000 new jobs, nearly double what forecasters had said, job creation for september and october was revised downward by a total of 49,000. another 350,000 people were so discouraged in november they simply stopped looking for work and left the labor force, which is why the unemployment ra
nottingham says republicans are waiting for the president to make the next move. >> vice president joe biden at lunch with middle class americans who will take a $2,000 hit if their tax cuts expire at the end of the year. >> this is no time to add any additional burden. >> while the white house is pushing congress to renew middle class tax cuts, the president says he won't take any deal that extends tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. honor of the pearl harbor ak this is the only night of te year the beacon will shine. hared their fi >> it would take 15 minutes by the time the decision is made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent the middle class tax cut. >> both are waiting to talk to president obama and house speaker boehner. here on capital here hill boehner says he is still waiting on the white house to respond to the latest proposal. >> this isn't a progress report because there is no progress to report. to >> republicans are offering to extend tax breaks for all americans, close tax loopholes and cut nearly $1.5 trillion in spending. >> i came out the day after ele
biden out speaking with middle class americans today said that the u.s. economy has turned the corner. he was very emphatic about that saying saying it is moving in a positive direction. at the same time, he was putting pressure on lawmakers to come to an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. it was yet another white house effort to rally support around its approach to the fiscal cliff. joe biden sitting down with seven middle class americans worried about their taxes going up. >> these are hard working, serious americans who are playing by the rules, doing it all right, and struggling already in this economy. >> reporter: jobs numbers, proof the administration says that the president's economic policies are paying off. >> you see it in the retail industry, you see it in transportation. you see it in health care. and you see it in other sectors. you do see a continued movement that continues to show some positive growth. >> reporter: while cautioning the nation's economy is far from a full recovery, administration officials emphasize positive growth, suggesting it puts them in a strong
yesterday. the army-navy showdown a classic. vice-president biden gets things underway with a coin toss and navy would open up the scoring, not to be outdone, army comes right back, and the quarterback with the 11 yard up the middle keeper there. and just out to the fourth. and navy down three, they go ahead with four minutes to go. and then two minutes left and as if things weren't tight enough. army with the winning score and they hand off and navy recovers with a 17-13 win and so broken up, crying, he had to be consoled by four star general, and navy has now beaten army. and you thought that college football was over for the year. >> what a great event. i live in phillies and friday nights in the city is filled with people and army thought they had it, but 11 straight. >> clayton: come on, army. let's check in with maria in for rick. >> good morning, everyone, we'll see a big shift in the weather pattern we've seen the last several weeks, very mild across the country and temperatures above average and enjoying basically very mild conditions for late fall and also early december, but
or leave it to the staffers? >> i think republicans in congress work better with vice president biden than president obama in these sorts of negotiations. >> america's happy warrior could be ruled out. what's your headline, good sir? >> unfortunately like past headlines, "in a jobs crisis, the republicans are still trying to cut health care and economic aid." i think that will be more and more difficult for them to carry as a message when people back home don't talk about cliffs, they talk about jobs, they talk about unemployment, and they don't want manufactured crises from washington when you could cut these tax hikes on the middle class, first order of business. >> it is fascinating. you eluded to it earlier, number of guests have talked about this as well, how we are very much in the posturing phase period as you indicated. a lot of bluster, a lot of chest thumping. one has to wonder at what point, at what point, perry, all of that ends and the real negotiating gets started. >> it's going to get close -- january 1st is getting closer. we're further from the posturing stage and further
be interesting, though. if vice president biden runs, which has been speculated about, there will be a real conundrum, and i think there's a conundrum for the democratic establishment if secretary clinton goes there. a lot of people feel that she would really be able to get the support of the big democratic donors and traditional parts of democratic party but not be able to bring along new parts of obama coalition, hence the gay marriage sticking point. 2016 is definitely wide open. hillary clinton was referred to me recently by an operative on the democratic side, very involved in the early jockeying says she's the 800-pound gorilla. if she goes the field is not necessarily hers for the taking, but she would have a significant advantage coming into the race. >> when the former president is asked if his wife will run, he always says he has no idea. is there any indication behind the scenes that she's either annoyed, flattered or feels pressure as so many people -- the election wasn't even over, and everyone had their list of republicans running. of course, her name has always been there for
president joe biden has been meeting with his donors. and david wrote, hillary clinton is running for president. he came to that conclusion after attending a forum in washington where hillary clinton was a featured speaker and was introduced by what remnick calls a short, adoring film. the film was like an international endorsement four years in advance of the iowa caucus and the new hampshire primary. >> if you bet on the side of human rights, human dignity, more countries may have the same extraordinary good fortune that we've had. ♪ and when you smile >> someone who knows a thing or two about political comebacks, i can tell you i don't think we've heard the last of hillary clinton. ♪ girl you're amazing just the way you are ♪ >> i just have an instinct that the best is yet to come. >> joining me now, "the washington post" and jonathan capeheart. >> come on, these leaving her term as secretary of state. she's arguably been one of the best that we've had in a while. she's loved by clearly lots of people around the world, particularly foreign leaders and so there she is at t
on budget and policy priorities and a former economist for vice president joe biden. jared, if i might start with you, speaker boehner says he put forward a middle ground proposal. no tax increases for the healthiest of americahealthy est of americans, yet he wants to rage the eligibility of medicare and he wants to slash billions from every program. if that's a middle ground proposal, i would rather have the paul ryan budget but maybe they're the same thing. >> i was thinking what does the right side of the spectrum look like. you're absolutely right. if you look at the top lines here, which is all we have really, jay carney is right. there are no details here. the first thing you have that should really raise eyebrows is they talk about $800 billion in new revenues from unspecified loophole closures. where have we heard that before? i heard in your introduction references to the romney/ryan campaign. i mean, that didn't work in the context of a campaign. with the fiscal cliff three weeks away, it's absolutely crazy to be talking at that level of nonspecificity. and then, yes, you're right.
biden used when he was being interviewed by chris matthews on "hardball." the fever breaking is clearly a term of art in terms of what the white house seeins as the probl. as krystal's point, the politics has changed in some way. we don't have the deal set yet but when was the last time a democratic candidate had the guts to campaign saying that taxes would rise. republicans have had this game of fear playing out for many cycles now, to say we always win when we promise to cut taxes. those are the gifts that they were using and offering in mitt romney's terms. it didn't work this time. it actually worked for the president to say, okay, it's not taxes rising on everyone but some people will pay more taxes. that kind of play book has worked time and time again. ultimately what breaks the fever? the trump card is with the president. taxes will go up if they do nothing. going over the cliff will see taxes going up on everyone and that's what republicans can avert if they choose to do so. >> krystal, it's not like the right is not fighting back. >> sure. >> because you you are seeing people
and broad base, including vice president biden, who's done terrific job in his capacity as second in command, but we also have a lot of governors, a lot of diversity, duval patrick, and governor cuomo. now you have senator-elect elizabeth warren that might be considered presidential timber. i don't want to throw all our eggs in one basket, because there's wonderful of people -- martin o'malley, the governor of colorado. there are so many people, like the republicans, there will be a large field of candidates, but no question if secretary of state hillary clinton decided to throw her gloves into the race, game on. >> she's got a lot of competition. >> oh, absolutely. >> david, do you think the republican party will have the strongest field it's had in maybe a generation next time around? >> i thought actually 2008 frgs the strongest field the republican party has had in a long time. i think we'll see a lot of recruitment from governors. it was spectacular to see rubio and ryan on the stage. they are very popular with washington elite. they struck some important themes. they didn't have real c
, joe biden2016.com, elizabeth warren2016.com and surprising santor santorumbush.com. >> whoa. >> all the speculation has got us thinking, maybe we should get it in on the game. people are making thousands off the cyber investments so why not get in on the action? >> absolutely. >> what domain would you snatch up. let's backspin on it. >> what you got, susan? >> i did research. there's optimists out apparently romneyryan is still taken. now, what's interesting -- >> it could happen. >> is that romneyryan2016. >> it is. >> how about ryanromney 2016? >> i didn't look that one up. but i did look up bloomberg and bloomberg2016. since he's leaving and leaving an opening for 2013, i thought it's the holiday times maybe i should buy s.e. for mayor. it is available. >> i can't believe it. >> snatch that right up for her. >> i guess that means it's my turn to talk. >> you got something for us here, steve? >> this is supposed to be the fun segment and i will give you my idea of fun way may not be anybody else's idea of fun. first, i would say if i had to snatch up a 2016 domain name so i could
and policy priorities and a former economist for vice president joe biden and also with us is msnbc political analyst karen finney. david, first, senator demint dumps all over boehner's job plan, now he's jumping ship altogether. how much of a loss is mr. demint, a man who once said single mothers who live with their boyfriends should not be allowed to teach in public schools? >> we at mother jones.com just put up the seven craziest things jim demint has ever said. there was a lot to choose from. don't ask me why we stopped at seven. >> do you have one better than the one i just quoted? >> that was pretty good. i think that's on the list. >> good. any others? >> people can just go there. the main thing here is that jim demint has been more an obstacle in the senate than, of course, in the house and i think his departure from there is good news i think for the one remaining moderate republican senator because he's really been quite responsible for choosing and picking and getting behind these tea party republicans like rand paul that have burrowed their way into the senate and made it much har
to report in the political theater vein. vice president biden will have lunch with a group of middle americans who can see their income taxes go up similar to the photo-op, the fiscal cliff photo-op of yesterday which was the president meeting with the middle class family. now to jobs. we have something of a surprise report. jobs turned out to be up up. the jobless rate is down and the word from the government is that sandy had no substantive effect on the data. here are the numbers. unemployment down to 7.7%. the economy added 146,000 jobs, not great but good. a third of that came from the retail sector. 53,000 jobs added. professional and business services up 43,000. leisure and hospitality up. construction, though, lost 20,000 jobs. we should note that jobs numbers were revise d downward, though, for september and october. in september it was revised from 148,000 gain to 238,000. went from 138,000 to 132,000. this month, the 7.7 is a full point lower than where we were at this time last year. so what are we supposed to make of these numbers and does the november report provide us
to hammer this one out. today vice president biden is hosting middle-class families at the white house, continuing to pressure congress to strike a deal on tax rates below 250,000. yesterday, the president struck a hopeful note with a middle-income family in virginia, while maintaining a hardline on negotiations. >> the message that i think we all want to send to members of congress is, this is a sovble problem. i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for rate at the top 2% but i remain optimistic we can get something done for that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> but the clock is ticking. with just two full weeks before christmas to go. joining me now from washington, the man with all the answers, cnbc's ayman jabbers. it's always so good and important to have you on the show. >> thanks. >> in general, but on days like today, where the numbers come out and we all think to ourselves, is this everything or nothing? what do these numbers mean and what do they portend for the fiscal cliff negotiatio
biden was out. he reiterated those two nonnegotiable demands on the part of the administration but said the actual amount of that top rate doesn't necessarily have to be 39.6. >> there are two irreducible minimum requirements. one, the top brackets have to go up. this is not a niabl issue. the second thing is, we have to have a mechanism to stop the brinksmanship on dealing with the national debt. >> now of course, this doesn't necessarily signal a turn in the talks between the administration and the congress. but there is the possibility that you have staff level discussions that continue to go on and we're just going to have to see over the next three weeks whether they can make a break. sometimes it looks darkest before the dawn. >> many thanks john howard. back to our panel. kerry, on this show last night, senator rand paul basically said you know what, no filibuster in the senate. let the democrats put their bill up and he will vote for it and make it a democratic tax hike period. end of sentence. elsewhere the republicans are very divided about tax hikes. is he right? is senator p
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